John Carder (born about 1798) also appeared in Indiana prior to 1836 in Marion County, which borders Johnson County to the north.  The 1850 census states that John was born in Virginia.  John’s wife was  born in Kentucky.  John Carder married Eliza Sorter in Johnson County on 8 February 1836.  He could be a brother to Berryman Carder   John is listed in the 1880 census of Hendricks County (immediately to the west of Marion County), living in the household of his son James Carder.   In the 1880 census his birthplace is listed as Kentucky.  I think that Virginia is more likely to be correct.  Here is the family of John Carder, based on the 1850 census of Pike Township, Marion County, Indiana as follows:

J6 Family of John Carder (1798-after 1880) and Eliza Sorter Carder (1811-before 1880)

·     1 Polly Carder (1836-), born in Indiana.

·     2 Margaret Carder (1838-), born in Indiana.

·     3 Rachel Carder (1841-), born in Indiana.

·     +4 James Carder (1841-), born in Indiana, married Mollie ______ (1853-).

·     5 Alma Carder (1848-), born in Indiana.

J6-4 Family of John Carder’s son James Carder (1841-) and Mollie Carder (1853-)

·     1 Harry Carder (1874-), born in Indiana

·     2 Dallas Carder (1876-), born in Indiana

·     3 Jessie F. Carder (January 1879-), born in Indiana.  She was a boarder in the household of William H. Jenkins in the 1900 census of Center Twp., Marion County, Indiana.

In the 1900 census of Perry Twp, Marion County, Indiana, Edith P. Carder (July 1882-) is listed in the household of Andrew and Alice Snider as his stepdaughter.  She is possibly a descendant of John Carder listed above.

Also listed on the Johnson County records is Mary Ann Carder, who married George Surface on 12 January 1836.  The only George Surface in Johnson County at that time was an older man who came from Virginia during 1827-1832 with his sons, none of whom were named George.   In the 1830 census there was an older woman (born 1770-1780) living in Berryman Carder’s household.  It is possible that this Mary Ann Carder was Berryman’s widowed mother who married another elderly man, George Surface.

In the 1850 census, Berryman’s wife is listed as Margaret, but in 1860 she is listed as Martha.

Descendants of Berryman Carder (1800-)

B2 Family of Berryman Carder (1800- after 1860) and Margaret Carder (1811-)

·     +1 William A. Carder (18 March 1831 - 13 September 1878 ), born in Indiana; married Elaline ____ (3 May 1830 - 21 October 1880). They are buried at Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, Whute River Township, Johnson County, Indiana.  He was a carpenter.

·     2 James W. Carder (1832 - ), born in Indiana; married 23 December 1862 to Mary E. Lyons.

·     3 John T. Carder (1834-), born in Indiana.

·     4 Pauline M. Carder (1837 - ), born in Indiana; married in Johnson County on 18 June 1872 to Harvey Smock.

·     5 Isaac M. Carder (1839-), born in Indiana.

·     6 Eliza Ann Carder (1841-), born in Indiana.

·     7 Nancy J. Carder (1845-), born in Indiana.

·     8 Martha E. Carder (1847-), born in Indiana.

·     9 Elizabeth “Bettie” Carder (1849-), born in Indiana; married 4 April 1881 in Johnson County to Eli Browning.

·     +10 Benjamin Carder (4 October 1855 - 31 December 1917), born in Indiana; married 15 July 1886 at Bethany, Harrison County, Missouri, to Nora Nevada Manning Ross (11 March 1866 - 5 April 1924).  Benjamin died at Summerville, Union County, Oregon. Nora died at Coeur d’Alene, Kootenai County, Idaho, and is buried at Summerville, Umatilla County, Oregon.  Benjamin was a farmer.  They are listed in the 1900 census of Kootenai County, Idaho.

Second Generation Descendants of Berryman Carder (1800-)

B2-1 Family of William A. Carder (1831-1878) and Elaline Carder (1830-1880)

·     1 (probably) Nannie Z. Carder (27 January 1858 - 13 September 1875), buried in Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, White River Twp., Johnson County, Indiana,  near William A. Carder and Elaline Carder.

·     2 (probably) Margaret J. Carder, married on 31 January 1877 in Johnson County, Indiana toJohn H. Whitenack

·     +3 (probably) R. Edgar Carder (July 1868-), born in Indiana; married in 1895 to Ada C. ______ (September 1875 - ).  They are listed in the 1900 census of White River Twp., Johnson County, Indiana, where he was a farmer..

B2-10 Family of Benjamin Carder (1855-1917) and Nora Ross Carder (1866-1924)

·     +1 Alva Burton Carder (11 May 1887 - 1 December 1946), born at Bethany, Harrison County, Missouri; married 14 February 1912 at LaGrande, Union County, Oregon, to Mary Nettie Woodall (27 August 1888 - January 1981).  He was a farmer and a road foreman.  Mary died at Richland, Oregon.

·     +2 Iola Edith Carder (19 September 1889 - 8 December 1964), born at Post Falls, Kootenai County, Idaho; married 20 March 1909 at Ada, Idaho to John William Cantrel (19 August 1881 - 1 December 1938).

·     3 Ross Wilbur Carder (16 January 1893 - 14 July 1908), born at Post Falls, Kootenai Co., Idaho; died at Summerville, Union County, Oregon.

·     +4 Ivor Glenn Carder (5 May 1899 - 19 September 1974), born at Post Falls, Kootenai County, Idaho; married 8 July 1920 in Missouri to Luna Marie Turner (2 September 1901 - February 1981).  Ivor was a logger.  He died at Packwood, Mason County, Washington. Luna died at Seattle, Washington.

·     +5 William Robert Carder (12 May 1901 - 20 February 1946), born at Summerville, Union County, Oregon; married 25 May 1926 to Beulah Morrison (4 April 1907-).  William was a laborer.  He is buried at Ellensburg, Kittitas County, Washington.

Third Generation Descendants of Berryman Carder (1800-)

B2-1-3 Family of R. Edgar Carder (1868-) and Ada C. Carder (1875-)

·     1 William W. Carder (July 1897), born in Indiana.

B2-10-1 Family of Alva Burton Carder (1887-1946) and Mary Nettie Woodall Carder (1888-1981)

·     1 Melvin Lawrence Carder (13 November 1912 - ), born at Summerville, Union County, Oregon; married 16 October 1952 to Madeline Taber.  Melvin was an S.P.R.R. clerk.  Melvin was an Army Medic in World War II.

·     +2 Vada Clarine Carder (12 January 1915 - ), born at Summerville, Oregon; married in 1936 at Fayette, Idaho to Charles E. Harrison; married second to Earl Benjamin Garrett.

·     3 Glenn Dale Carder (4 July 1917 - ), born at Summerville, Oregon.  He was a mechanic in the Navy Air Force in World War II.  After the war he was a trucker.

·     4 Clara Alice Carder (17 August 1919 - 5 November 1922), born at Halfway, Baker County, Oregon.

·     +5 Orval Burton Carder (27 February 1921 - ), born at Halfway, Oregon; married 14 June 1943 to Mary Loueva Carnahan (died 30 May 1967).  Orval was a pilot in the Air Force in World War II.

B2-10-2 Family of Iola Edith Carder Cantrel (1889-1964) and John William Cantrel (1881-1938)

·     1 Lola Cantrel (20 October 1909 - ), born at Harrison, Kootenai co., Idaho; married Russell Garion.

·     +2 Velva Cantrel (2 May 1912 - ), born at Summerville, Oregon; married Donald Oswald.

B2-10-4 Family of Ivor Glenn Carder (1899-1974) and Luna Marie Turner Carder (1901-1981)

·     +1 William Glenn Carder (15 July 1921 - ), maried 6 December 1941 at Shelton, Mason County, Washington to Gwendolyn Plemons; married second to Lorraine ________.

B2-10-5 Family of William Robert Carder (1901-1946) and Beulah Morrison Carder (1907-)